Thursday, September 29, 2016

Training Camp Update: One Week In, Breaking Down Who's in and Who's on the Bubble

Training camp 2016. (Photo by Rob McMorris)

The Flames made 11 cuts on Wednesday, which leaves the number of players in camp -- or at least listed on the training camp roster (looking at you, Johnny Gaudreau) -- at 49 with a breakdown of 27 forwards, 17 defencemen and 5 goaltenders.

Factoring in the guys coming back from injury like Sean Monahan, Mikael Backlund and Daniel Pribyl and the before-mentioned absentee and the 40 or so skaters remaining is small enough to get the number of practice groups down to two now, after being three up until now.  They will practice at the Saddledome at 10:30 am and 12:00 pm today. One last session will be good for raspy coach Glen Gulutzan, whose voice started abandon him on Sunday and was almost gone by Monday night's opening game.

Of those remaining, that includes a bunch have no real shot at making the team. But with Stockton's training camp not starting until Monday, guys like Matt Frattin, Roman Dyukov, Austin Carroll, Hunter Smith and Ryan Lomberg will get the benefit of a few more organized ice times at the Saddledome.

Those demoted to the AHL already, a list that is nine players deep, those guys will head to California and get ready. Some will drive, some will fly, and there is ice time booked daily out there for them to informally get together as a small group and keep the legs moving before Ryan Huska and his coaching staff arrive and get things going next week.

Earlier in the week in this piece, I looked specifically at five training camp battles. For example, who will play right wing on the top line? Who will line up beside Sam Bennett and Troy Brouwer? Who will play with Mikael Backlund and Michael Frolik?

Today, I take a step back and examine in general, how many roster spots are available and who is on the bubble, fighting for those spots.


Locked and Loaded (7)

Much like when you put together a puzzle at home, you start with the edge pieces that are easier and more certain and fill in the rest afterwards, we'll take the same approach here. Here are the pieces that not only do we know will be on the team but we also know with virtual certainty where they will slot.
  • LW Johnny Gaudreau
  • C Sean Monahan
  • C Sam Bennett
  • RW Troy Brouwer
  • C Mikael Backlund
  • LW/RW Michael Frolik
  • C Matt Stajan

Tentative Configuration

Gaudreau - Monahan - _______
_______ - Bennett - Brouwer
_______ - Backlund - Frolik
_______ - Stajan - _______


Of course, one could put an asterisk on Gaudreau given he's unsigned and the possibility looms that he could still be in that situation when the season begins, but given this is more of a 'bigger picture' look, I'm going to pencil him in.

The Flames top nine consists of three pairings that at this point are expected to be a thing. Gaudreau-Monahan and Backlund-Frolik have a history of success together. Brouwer-Bennett is obviously new but Gulutzan is determined to try them together and the first test drive on Monday could not have gone much better.

With Stajan, he could see some time on the wing this year and will likely see time in the press box too, but more often than not, I would expect him to centre the fourth line.

Locked (3)

There are guys that I view as certainties to be on the roster on opening night, but I'm just not sure where they'll draw in in terms of first line, fourth line, or somewhere inbetween.
  • LW/RW Micheal Ferland
  • LW Lance Bouma
  • RW Alex Chiasson


Ferland has been deployed on the right side frequently so I see him as the more logical guy to play his off-wing if necessary. Bouma is looking for a bounce-back season and while his success two seasons ago came alongside Backlund, the fourth line is just as likely of a landing spot.

As for Chiasson, I'm not sure yet what to expect although he's been an NHL regular the last few years so I'd expect him to be on the roster come October 12. I'm just not prepared to pencil him into the starting 12 just yet.

Bubble (11 for 4 spots)

There are guys more likely and less likely to make the team on this list and I've loosely listed them in order from most likely to least likely based on what I've seen/heard so far. Obviously, there could be a fifth spot available temporarily if No. 13 remains absent.

There are guys in camp still but not on this list. Morgan Klimchuk is one example. It's just not his time yet.
  • C/RW Freddie Hamilton - On a one-way, can play multiple positions/roles
  • LW Chris Higgins (PTO) - Could help PK but does he still have enough game at age 33.
  • LW Lauri Korpikoski (PTO) - See above, although the speedy Finn is three years younger.
  • RW Garnet Hathaway - Cheap AAV will helps his odds, brings energy, ideal 4th liner.
  • C/RW Linden Vey - Can score, play multiple positions, plenty of NHL experience
  • LW Brandon Bollig - Good in the room but does he do enough outside of it to stick.
  • LW Hunter Shinkaruk - Waiver exempt still, a bit more AHL seasoning might be best
  • LW Matthew Tkachuk - No need to rush him, but possible fill-in if Gaudreau sits.
  • RW Daniel Pribyl - Not skating yet, so likely starts in AHL to get game-ready
  • RW Emile Poirier - Coming off poor AHL season, but in third year as a pro
  • C Mark Jankowski - No need to rush him, continue his development path in the AHL


While I have Higgins and Korpikoski both ranked fairly high, I don't necessarily see both getting a contract. It could be one or the other. They'll need to show they've still got some game but you sense Gulutzan would like to add a veteran to provide a bit more experience to a very youthful line-up.

Hamilton could be a valuable player to have on the roster given he can center or the wing and could also slot in in a variety of roles. He could play RW on the top line, or he could centre the fourth line.

With his new two-year, one-way deal in his back pocket, Hamilton has looked good in his two games with a couple of goals. He could be a useful guy to have around, who could play centre if Backlund isn't ready, or in place of Stajan when he gets a night off. As a right-shot, he could slot in anywhere on the wing. He's an economically priced ($612,000) utility forward that would be a useful guy ala Paul Byron to have on the roster.

Working for Hathaway is his cheap NHL salary of $690,000. Working against him is he is waiver-exempt still so the high energy, high character banger-and-crasher can be shipped down without fear of losing him.

For young Tkachuk, he'll probably be back in junior for another season. Although if Gaudreau isn't around opening night and even if he is, he could get a few NHL games to start the season. But before he plays in that 10th game, I'd expect him to be back in London.

The other guy that is intriguing is Pribyl. There is a lot of mystery with this player, who was second in the Czech league in scoring a year ago. Due to his knee surgery that he is returning from and with a two-way contract and being waivers-exempt, the easy play is to start him off in Stockton. However, he could be up in Calgary sooner than later.

For your background, the waiver-eligibles on this list that would need to be exposed to the other 29 NHL teams to be assigned to the AHL are Hamilton, Higgins, Korpikoski, Vey and Bollig.

It should also be noted that there's no guarantee they go with 14 forwards. They could go with 13 to save some cap space but the schedule is pretty busy early, having some options is usually preferred.


Locked and Loaded (4)

Again, these are the guys that will be on the team opening night -- barring a trade or injury, of course -- and we also know where they'll slot in.
  • LD Mark Giordano
  • RD TJ Brodie
  • RD Dougie Hamilton
  • RD Deryk Engelland

Tentative Configuration

Giordano - Brodie
_______ - Hamilton
_______ - Engelland


I see no reason to expect Giordano and Brodie to be split up. They're the teams's top two defenceman, they work well together, until I see signs indicating otherwise, I expect same old, same old.

That leaves Hamilton to slot into the second pairing and Engelland would be part of the 5-6-7 mix that round out the blueline.

Locked (2)
  • RD Dennis Wideman
  • LD Jyrki Jokipakka


Both of these guys will be on the roster, barring a trade of Wideman. The latter seems highly unlikely at this point. A deal could still happen at some point in the year as he's a pending UFA but around the trade deadline is more realistic. Acquiring a big salary like Wideman ($5.25 million) is more feasible for cap-crunched teams later on when there's less money remaining and some cap space has been built up.

Just back from the World Cup where he represented Finland, Jokipakka as a left-shot is probably the leading candidate to play on that second pairing with Hamilton but we'll have to see how it plays out. Those auditioning for the seventh spot like Tyler Wotherspoon could surprise and jump into that spot. While it would make for two right-shooters, Wideman is a candidate also.

Bubble (5 for 1 spot)

Based on what I've seen and with a dose of age and experience factored in, there are five legitimate candidates with a shot at that No. 7 job. Again, some guys are more likely than others and I've handicapped them in an approximate order as I see them today.

Absent from the list are the two highly-touted Swedes Rasmus Andersson and Oliver Kylington that both remain in camp. Let's be honest, there is zero need to rush Kylington into the NHL at just age 19. Defence is a position where ideally 2-3 seasons in the minors at minimum is best for development. Andersson is a first-year pro and Stockton will be his home this year for sure.
  • LD Tyler Wotherspoon - Waiver eligible now, three years of pro complete, it's his time.
  • LD Brett Kulak - Big night offensively Monday, made opening night roster a year ago
  • LD Ryan Culkin - Healthy, his game is looking sharp and he's back in the next-up mix.
  • LD Nicklas Grossmann (PTO) - Brings lots of experience but foot speed an issue.
  • RD Kenney Morrison - Having a far more impactful camp after a poor first pro season


Given the Flames are expected to be pushing up against the upper limit of the salary cap, Morrison's AAV ($925,000) is considerably higher than the other three under contract so that will work against him. It's for this reason that settling for a salary ($625,000) well below his qualifying offer will actually help Wotherspoon make the team. Kulak ($656,000) and Culkin ($656,000) have that same advantage.

Fair or not fair, an additional consideration might who is waiver-exempt and from that perspective, Kulak, Culkin and Morrison are all guys that can be shuttled up and down as the Flames need them this season, without having to clear waivers.

If he'd agree to it, a two-way deal for Grossmann would be best. They could put him in Stockton like Corey Potter a few years ago as an experienced depth option should injuries mount, but meanwhile, the team can roll with their youth and see how they perform.

Of course, the elephant in the room when you talk about defence is a possible Kris Russell return but we'll cross that bridge should that actually happen. Same thing for fan favourite Jakub Nakladal. For now though, Flames brass have to be impressed with that they've seen both this week and in Penticton from their youth in camp. These existing solutions are also far cheaper solutions to what a Russell would cost and these days, every dollar matters.


Locked and Loaded (2)

Put to rest the saga from a year ago that accompanied the three goalies the Flames had in camp on one-way contracts.

This year, the only competition will be the division of playing time.
  • G Brian Elliott
  • G Chad Johnson


Elliott will be the starter, for sure, but Johnson will be a very capable back-up and is definitely someone capable of stringing some starts together if Elliott hits a rough patch. Hard to imagine that this year's duo come in at less than half the price of what was spent on goaltending in 2015-16.

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  1. Do Kulak, Culkin, Hathaway, have any performance bonuses to worry about? (ice time / hits etc)

    1. Not that I'm aware of. Or at least I do not believe this to be a concern.

  2. Darren sorry to keep playing the same record, but I think the song is making its way up the charts, so one more time, shop Gaudreau. I love what Tre has done to this point. Filling holes, addressing the needs of the team. Yes there have been a few signings that went south, literally, but for the most part he has marcher without veering to the right, or left, strait on to the goal of, bigger, faster, more talented. Today I saw a pole taken on the sports net channel asking what should be done with the Gaudreau contract. Removing the none respondence, those that say they don’t know; and those that say give JH the keys to the castle. The number you are left with is 59 percent of those answering the pole feel the Flames need to take a hard line stance, 13 percent currently feel a trade is the best move, count me clearly among them; but as this situation continues, the movement of popular opinion is going to continue to shift in that direction.

    So at this point I would like to pose a question.
    Is there any way within reason Ekblad could be a return for JH.

    I say no one would make that trade, and he signed for 7.5.

    I could sight all the obvious attributes of each player, there would be many that say apples, and oranges, but the simple fact is that players are assets; and they are worth exactly what someone would pay for them. If Johnny feels he is worth substantially more to someone else than he is to the Flames, he is not going to be happy taking less just because they have the hammer. Nor should he, after all it’s a business. In a larger market it is clear as I have stated before that Gaudreau is a more financially sound asset. I wont restate the why, but that fact has to be considered by the agent the organisation, and the player, yet likely isn’t by the fans.

    Considering just his value as a player on the ice, you have to look at the position he plays, as well as the effect he has on the line. Again I say he plays the easiest position to fill, and we have others that could fill it. Are they going to have as profound an effect there as he does? I would say no, but line, and the team may still be better overall.

    The line for using the asset to address a positional need that is very difficult to address, mainly a top line RW. The team, in not having to address the distractions of an unhappy star.

    What I would not want to see is a trade that had to be made down the road because it wasn’t made when it should have been, such as was the case with Taylor Hall, or Subban.

    Brad does not need my advise, but he wouldn't be doing his dew diligence if he wasn’t exploring every avenue, and trade then has to be on the table. I say the longer things drag out the more likely, and the more expectable that becomes. I also do not think this has to be a confrontational issue. The player, and the team can both be winners that is the best outcome. I would be working quietly with the player to address the desires he has, to manage those with the needs of the organization.

    If he does want to play in Calgary then he will have to have a realistic view of value in a smaller market, and take less dollars than he could perhaps command elsewhere. If that is not an option he is willing to consider, then he should be willing to work with the team, as well as potential trading partners to maximize the return, and they to help the player find a best fit. I would also be working to soften the market, to make the trade more acceptable.

    My final thoughts on JH are that two weeks into the season he will be playing for an eastern club, and the Flames will have a top line RW.

    1. If you have a Ferrari, you don't trade it for Four Surprise cars. (The surprise cars are the 4 first round pick's we might get as a max. return) Let the GM do his job and play hardball for a bit. We're in a position of strength compared to Johnny right now. When he loses a paycheck if he misses a few games, this will get done. If he is not signed by December, he can't play the remainder of the year. We will sign him - but for the right amount (which is 7.5M max. AAV)


    2. I asked … Would you trade Ekblad for Gaudreau? I don’t think there is a GM in the league that would, and he signed for 7.5. I would give Gaudreau 7 depending on the term, and that would have to be at least the 7 years Monahan signed for. Those numbers seem to leave the Flames, and he still a long way apart.

      I think you should re read the comment. I would not trade Gaudreau for anything, but his real value, which is exactly the point of shopping now. People need to want to go to work not feel coerced into it. He is a top ten scorer, and is worth that in trade.

      If he does sign; and that signing is truly amiable all well, and good, but this looks a little to much like other hold outs that turned acrimonious. There are possible value for value trades that could, and should be looked at, that don’t diminish the on ice product.

      How much of Gaudreau’s value, that an agent might bring to the table includes his marketability. Its true on the business side that he is going to sell Jerseys, and fill seats. Its true that he is a lot of fun to watch, but it is not true that there are no other players in the NHL that couldn’t fill his shoes as far as on ice performance is concerned.

      Age is a factor. He has proven himself early, and others might take longer to get there, but given time they will. It isn’t a crap shoot to think Mattews, or Eichel are going to be just as good in time as Gaudreau. There is no reason to think Laine isn’t going to be the best RW in the game for a decade. These aren’t surprise picks.

      My assumption is that Gaudreau would be happier playing in the east, and easier to sign as a result. I also think his marketable value has more impact in a larger market, making the contract more reasonable for the team. Calgary doesn’t need a player to sell tickets, and Jerseys.

      Given the position he plays I can think of a dozen possibilities that would improve the overall team. Why twist his arm? Why not work with him, and make everybody happy? Given that can be done; and if not then JH, who may at this point be feeling the love else where, may just get a wake up call when the reality of; well ya we would love to have him, but not for that guy sinks in.

      Maybe then Calgary would look a whole lot better.

      Either way when your kid says I don’t want to live here anymore you say ok kid good luck, you don’t lock them in their room until they change their minds.

    3. It's a salary cap world, and Calgary is a cap team. Your entire argument is ill-conceived, and therefore not much worth arguing, but the $$$ Gaudreau is asking for vs. Calgary's offer has nothing to do with being able to afford it or being a "small market".

      Also. It's very easy to say trade him. For what? What top line RW are you expecting to get back? Then we'll just be searching for a top line LW.

  3. Appreciate the update! I like the Brouwer- Bennett combo.

    1. Wasn't anything to not like about it on Monday. We'll see it again this weekend, I'm sure. There's the making of a nice line there. Not so sure it will ultimately be Tkachuk on the left side but don't think it matters. Those two should be an effective pairing regardless. Thanks for the note.

    2. I liked them on the PP but that line didn't get much of a forecheck going...

  4. Gaudreau Monahan Ferland
    Tkachuk Bennett Brouwer
    Bouma Backlund Frolik
    Hamilton Stajan Chaisson


    Gio Brodie
    Wideman Hamilton
    Jokipakaa Engellan