tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post8786409930667035475..comments2023-10-13T03:04:59.079-06:00Comments on Flames From 80 Feet: Smart Move or Colossal Mistake? Pondering the Flames Rumoured Interest in Hiring Bill PetersDarren Hayneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18313656680741630135noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-63384699069296085402018-04-28T13:02:16.923-06:002018-04-28T13:02:16.923-06:00I am less worried now. lolI am less worried now. lolReddy Kilowatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292346927064446410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-48310410282045573272018-04-26T17:30:51.701-06:002018-04-26T17:30:51.701-06:00Fair enough! Thanks for the response! Best of Luck...Fair enough! Thanks for the response! Best of Luck (either on the links, or getting a new site sponsor!)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07568328893009801849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-25715127234615755282018-04-25T11:15:13.844-06:002018-04-25T11:15:13.844-06:00By your use of the word disappointment, Chris, I d...By your use of the word disappointment, Chris, I don't think you are aware that FF80F is strictly a side-business for me. I've still been writing for The Canadian Press all winter as I have for nearly three decades, but my additional freelancing on the Flames in this format that I have been doing for the past four years has stopped because my site sponsor withdrew last October so my revenue model is currently broken.<br /><br />Journalism isn't free. For the blog and podcast to exist, like any business, expenses need to be paid such as all the various costs associated with both of those entities in addition to the labour costs of writing and editing (blog) and recording and post-production (podcast).<br /><br />Every now and then over the last few months, I've written something just for fun. But just like if your employer stopped paying you, you'd probably stop going into work, that's pretty much what has happened here.<br /><br />As a result though, with the extra time on my hands from not juggling a second job, I've been able to do some other things that I've neglected lately as one tends to do in working 60-70 hours per week. For example, I coached my daughter's midget hockey team this winter.<br /><br />Thanks for the feedback, greatly appreciated, but that's the unfortunate situation with the blog. I enjoyed doing it, feedback has always been good, but if this summer I end up with more time to golf rather than sit at the computer rambling on about the Flames, that may suck for you, but not for me. Cheers.<br /><br />Darren<br /><br />Darren Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18313656680741630135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-15647201083439850462018-04-25T10:57:55.043-06:002018-04-25T10:57:55.043-06:00Great Blog Darren as always, a little disappointed...Great Blog Darren as always, a little disappointed with lack of frequency since December though... very excited about Peters, I think the Flames will be better next year. <br />Off-season moves: Trade Frolik - 3rd round pick. Trade Brodie, Klimchuk plus Fox to Isles, get back our First and second round picks, and Ho-Sang.<br />Sign James Van Riemsdyk and/or Michael Grabner.<br />Sign Carter Hutton as back-up. Sign Jack Johnson or Ian Cole for third pairing D with Hamonic. <br />Gio-Hamilton<br />Kulak-Andersson<br />Johnson/Cole-Hamonic<br />Stone<br />Gaudreau-Monahan-V.Riems/Ferland/Foo<br />Tkachuk-Backlund-Grabner/Ferland/Dube/Mangiapane<br />Bennett-Jankowski-Ferland/Mangiapane/Foo/Dube<br />Brouwer-Shore-Ferland<br />Stajan (resign one year, 1mil)<br />GFG!Chris Quinnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-16968702318280374002018-04-25T09:55:11.241-06:002018-04-25T09:55:11.241-06:00Darren,
Excellent article, I've missed your ...Darren, <br /><br />Excellent article, I've missed your blog posts over the last while. They are consistently among, or the best I read and its a crime for some, ahem, 'comments' to dissuade you from the great job of sharing your viewpoint. Some people don't get it, it's a blog!<br /><br />Anyway, I hate to say it, but if you're reading this comment...or moreso some of the others, you're seriously undermining the wisdom you clearly hold on the subject of hockey! <br /><br />Here's to ignoring the comments!Colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18032264753770366345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-42019630003099080742018-04-24T14:02:58.176-06:002018-04-24T14:02:58.176-06:00Very interesting read. I learned alot about the ne...Very interesting read. I learned alot about the new coach of the Flames and i must admit, theres alot in this blog to make me excited about the next season. Im a firm believer that to get good results you need the right tools regardless of your experience or knowledge. I think peters in inheriting a much more complete toolbox and I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do with it. <br />Haters are going to hate regardless of who Tre hired so their opinions mean nothing. This blog was based on alot more facts than any armchair GM is capable of. I'll trust in Tre's decision because he knows bestAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-8557035118310114192018-04-23T16:01:21.088-06:002018-04-23T16:01:21.088-06:00Peter's is Treliving's choice, just like T...Peter's is Treliving's choice, just like Treliving was the Kings choice, and King was the owners choice. From ownership down they all have made a choice who is best serve in the position they hold. <br /><br />I would think if you had ownership interfering in coaching decisions you would have exactly what is happening in Carolina.<br /><br />The GM and the coach have to work intricately together to build then coach a winning team. If I was Treliving I would hire someone that I think I can work with, someone who shares my vision and philosophy. Someone without internal power struggles that may come from an established name brand coach who thinks he's right and doesn't care what the GM thinks or wants<br /><br />Say Treliving builds and drafts for speed and skill, but management makes him hire a coach like Sutter who want truculence, defense and grit. I can't see players drafted for skill and speed becoming a truculent team, defensive 1-0 score every game team.<br /><br />Treliving thinks he has the right person for the job so I'll trust his expertise and if he's wrong he's wrong. If he's right time will tell <br /><br />Good Luck Tree, from a Flames FanLifesBetterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518103638695159885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-87283305387821540562018-04-23T15:02:45.100-06:002018-04-23T15:02:45.100-06:00They had an ID under Gully. They were a fragile te...They had an ID under Gully. They were a fragile team prone to coughing up leads and withering proportionally to the pressure of the situation.<br /><br />They were also known league-wide to have a defensive structure that was pretty easy to get behind in all thee zones depending on the situation.<br /><br />AV was the most creative imo. He got his guys behind our d' for breakaways either two or three times on line changes last time they were in the 'dome. Once for a goal. Yeesh.Reddy Kilowatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292346927064446410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-26295989254613319932018-04-23T13:58:06.102-06:002018-04-23T13:58:06.102-06:00A great read, however it doesn't change my min...A great read, however it doesn't change my mind about Peters. We're not in the Minors anymore, and you still need to go with the proven winners, like Sutter, Coach Q, or anyone that has winning on their resume. Yes, of course the Flames still have no identity, and that was on Gully. Tree's still has to get some 25 goal scorers with grit, that come to play every night. IE: Tom Wilson from Was who plays on the edge every night, big, cheap contract and will be another Tkachuk for pissing people off, to create more PP's. Also we need another James Neale type game breaker, to have 2 to three potent lines. THEN, a coach might be able to hold the Flames as team that other teams won't want to play. They just don't have enough toughness to create an identity yet. Jetflame1https://www.blogger.com/profile/15987304711326093094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-20038582890612377592018-04-23T13:37:17.899-06:002018-04-23T13:37:17.899-06:00Just wanted to comment as well to express how much...Just wanted to comment as well to express how much I (and other Flames fans that I know) enjoy reading your blog. Please don't take insulting posters like Moon too seriously - there's no reason to call someone's work garbage just because they have different opinion. Trolls are better off ignored.<br /><br /> Your posts are always very well-researched and thought out and I always look forward to reading them. It seems that other flames bloggers do as well, as they are frequently quoting you on your views.<br /><br />Having known little about Peters, and definitely a little concerned given his less-than-stellar head coaching track record in Carolina, I'm cautiously optimistic now that it's been officially confirmed that he's our guy. Thanks for the informative post.Codynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-50660067941445473022018-04-23T11:22:42.123-06:002018-04-23T11:22:42.123-06:00Off topic, but in the same vein I am more worried ...Off topic, but in the same vein I am more worried about our GM, than the coach. He is learning on the fly and the guy hired to hold his hand is asleep at the switch.<br /><br />I think the entire hockey world re-learned a very important lesson from BB in the Phil Kessel trade: Never trade your 1st round pick until you know the order of the draft. <br /><br />I mean seriously; in what other situation would you trade something you owned without knowing the value of it? It is ludicrous on its face, and yet...<br /><br />I am not sure whether Burkie forgot this gem of wisdom or allowed Treliving to persuade him that a Travis Hamonic was worth the gamble. Either way, they made Garth Snow look like Sam Pollock.<br /><br />The franchise has never recovered from losing Cliff Fletcher...would be funnier if it wasn't true.Reddy Kilowatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292346927064446410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-27098108682103243302018-04-23T10:45:00.199-06:002018-04-23T10:45:00.199-06:00Thanks Darren, I really missed your posts to your ...Thanks Darren, I really missed your posts to your blog. I really appreciate your work. I don't always agree but its clear you put the effort in, there is logical consistency etc. Please keep writing and I hope the comment section continues to grow! ChheersAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16320187347544896815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-90913440214171389852018-04-23T10:39:28.431-06:002018-04-23T10:39:28.431-06:00Skinner's issues may be concussion-related.Skinner's issues may be concussion-related. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-27594101585803661682018-04-23T09:06:10.572-06:002018-04-23T09:06:10.572-06:00Darren,
Great article, great overview of the coach...Darren,<br />Great article, great overview of the coach and current situation. As you so clearly stated, we as fans just do not know the real story. To pretend otherwise is just foolish, but still many do. <br /><br />If Peters ends up getting the job I too will give him the benefit of the doubt and hope his history of playing youngsters in meaningful positions and accountability overall will do wonders with the Flames. Of course if we just look at records there may be some concern, but we can say the same about Gallant..... Bra Treliving has the most info and the best insight into what is needed, its his choice and I'm willing to back him.<br /><br />Finally, hopefully Darren some of these comments won't keep you from continuing on with this wonderful, insightful blog. I always await your next entry and think you do a terrific job. Whether I agree or not (mostly do) your research and well thought-out comments are really appreciated!Chris & Cathy Bergquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07208358912997898708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-46859226426855831352018-04-23T08:20:03.446-06:002018-04-23T08:20:03.446-06:00Is it possible to write an article where you tell ...Is it possible to write an article where you tell the reader not to buy into a W-L record and then say that the coach is a proven winner at other levels?OlegOlegOleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01746287136575273584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-63936782554743539652018-04-23T06:48:16.016-06:002018-04-23T06:48:16.016-06:00I hope that the Flames don't get too aggressiv...I hope that the Flames don't get too aggressive in moving players this summer. Gulutzan's insistence on playing veterans even when they are not succeeding did not give an opportunity to evaluate the talent pool. Hopefully the next coach can quickly sort through the young guys and figure out where the team goes in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-36446717044175348492018-04-23T03:58:08.293-06:002018-04-23T03:58:08.293-06:00I'll admit that I really wasn't happy when...I'll admit that I really wasn't happy when the news broke about Peters because I wanted a more proven track record like AV or one of the other available vets. Reading this has at least made me look at the hiring a little differently, I'm not saying I've completely bought in but there is a glimmer of hope there. <br /><br />This team needs to make some changes this offseason if they want to be taken seriously by other teams and their fans. I know more and more fans like myself are becoming less interested and it'll take some work to get us to become the emotional fans we once were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-59032568965911145202018-04-23T01:27:40.761-06:002018-04-23T01:27:40.761-06:00Thanks Darren, I enjoyed and truly appreciated eve...Thanks Darren, I enjoyed and truly appreciated everything ya had to say as ya did basically cover all the basis...”moon” obviously has some personal issues that’s far beyond hockey talk so simply ignore him...<br />Anyways, I’m not gonna lie...I personally believe that Alain Vigneault is (hands down) the best candidate out there...nonetheless I have the upmost respect for Treliving and I know that whatever he decides on will be the best decision as his job is gonna be on the line for it...<br />There’s no doubt that he has assembled a very solid core and with the players (and coach) that will be soon joining, I have 100% faith that they will get it done...After reading the article, I’m not as worried anymore with Peters joining and I thank you for that...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01029314267540623244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-9954441451480686632018-04-23T00:16:43.840-06:002018-04-23T00:16:43.840-06:00Sounds like Peters likes to give his young call-up...Sounds like Peters likes to give his young call-ups the opportunity to succeed which is a good thing considering the number of prospects on the verge of playing in the NHL.. and the continuation of possession hockey but without the seemingly senseless deployment of personnel under GG may not be a bad thing.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-60539821680192880932018-04-22T23:59:58.521-06:002018-04-22T23:59:58.521-06:00I'm cautiously optimistic if Peters is indeed ...I'm cautiously optimistic if Peters is indeed the new hire. I've heard good things from many Hurricanes fans, I also like the he's got more of an old school personality. MrLunatikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02937865996835072693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-64136078487485168472018-04-22T23:58:11.118-06:002018-04-22T23:58:11.118-06:00Oh moon... you need to grow up already, you've...Oh moon... you need to grow up already, you've been running this same shtick for years and everyone is wise to it. MrLunatikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02937865996835072693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-26140909323702569522018-04-22T23:26:19.156-06:002018-04-22T23:26:19.156-06:00@ Darren: Yeah, I remember the team. I live in the...@ Darren: Yeah, I remember the team. I live in the Lower Mainland. I was the guy who had season's tickets to the Heat.<br /><br />Some fans don't understand the AHL is a developmemt league. Lots of years the team who wins the league has few NHL prospects and a bunch of career minor-leaguers in their late 20s.<br /><br />As for Huska, he was dealing with a lot of call-ups, including both of his starters at times. Lots of guys knocking on the door in our org. I believe that and the age of our team is a big reason Peters could be hired.<br /><br />Peters plays young guys, unlike some other coaches. He did a good job with the 'canes young d' imo.<br /><br />Peters probably has some level of familiarity with Brad Campbell-Pascal too.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />RReddy Kilowatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292346927064446410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-16972002657296546682018-04-22T22:47:17.873-06:002018-04-22T22:47:17.873-06:00Best Flames writer in the business. Honestly,
You...Best Flames writer in the business. Honestly, <br />Your blogs here are the best content flames fans have to read.<br /><br />I was upset by the move to be honest. I felt it was a sideways move but your article has definitely made me way more receptive to the change, not fully on board yet but not nearly as pessimistic about it. Full disclosure though, I was a huge fan of GG, I truly feel he is the best coach we have had since D.SutterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-46518767442609029702018-04-22T22:46:47.476-06:002018-04-22T22:46:47.476-06:00So how was the PP under Peters at Carolina? Calgar...So how was the PP under Peters at Carolina? Calgary's PP drove me crazy! Every time it was the same thing... a forward would approach the blue line with the puck and then they would pass it back (usually to JG) thus allowing that extra time for the opposing team to set up to counteract Calgary's entry into the zone. It happened over and over again... No wonder Calgary's PP was so bad.<br />Also GG refused to play his forwards on their off-wings on the PP. Why I don't know. His stubbornness was so frustrating.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14661204676180332815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6422944892527683969.post-44292706840008725772018-04-22T22:21:32.172-06:002018-04-22T22:21:32.172-06:00@moon if everyone is telling you that it is your a...@moon if everyone is telling you that it is your approach to criticism which is the problem and you respond with insults as well as repetition of you way is better because it’s what you believe them you are nothing better than a bully/ignorant/arrogant. I have read some of your work(if it’s you on CP) and it’s not always your material which is the problem. There is a quote which a person I hold in high regard said “approach every conversation as if the other person knows something you don’t otherwise it’s not a conversation” (that might be a paraphrase but it’s very close), I hold that your viewpoint is very valid to this discussion but that doesn’t make it better than the ones which are different than yours. <br /><br />As it applies to the blog I really appreciate your view and have been missing the posts as I am currently living in Russia and don’t get as much news on the flames/nhl as I would like. Please keep writing as I believe your views are always interesting. <br /><br />From what I have gathered from a distance is the flames were unable to convert their pp opportunities when the got them and gave up too many chances. Can you take a look at the available coaches and list out the strengths and weaknesses? While I am okay with peters if he is hired my excitement will really come down to his assistants as I se him a a similar coach(system) to GG with a different personal approach to the job. <br /><br />Thanks!FranksandBeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06845418216239167934noreply@blogger.com